11-25-16, 02:17 AM
Occurred on Garry's Mod
Which Server: Lenny Face Gaming TTT #1|InstaDL|Harpoons|SpecDM|Events
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:42774727
Your Steam Name: red.
Their Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:67653587
Their Steam Name: §0[LFG] §2Christmas§4Tomdv2
Description of offense and evidence (screen shots, logs, etc.):
First the worded vesrion of the situation. I'll attach screenshots after. Sorry for the wall of text lmfao
Before I say anything else, I'd like to emphasize the fact that I was on the server for probably 15 minutes and I already have a staff complaint. Maybe think a little about who is getting promoted here.
I joined the server and was having fun for a bit. Was nice to see spec DM again after playing on a good handful of servers in a row that didn't have it. Players seemed nice. Then apparently I made a mistake by joking about being a traitor. All I said was "It says 'traitor' on the bottom of my screen, what does that mean?" and I instantly got RDMed by Tomdv2, who is currently an operator on the server. I submitted a report, of course, and he claimed that I was T-baiting, which led to a very short argument between me and him that resulted in him kicking me for breaking a rule - 'don't argue with staff'. This isn't the problem, however I feel it should still be included for some background info. I'm well aware I broke the rule and I won't try to say I didn't in any way.
I rejoined after the map rotation finished, and the first thing I said was "I don't understand why that's a rule", leading to a discussion with some of the other players about it. Again, I get kicked by Tom. This is where my problem is. I didn't directly argue with him or any other staff member, just said that I don't understand one of the rules on the server. He kicks me again for the same reason. Not a single word I said was directed towards him, and in fact he could have been helpful there by explaining the rule and why it's in place rather than holding a grudge against me over a small dispute and punishing me immediately. And yes, I seriously mean immediately. This took place over the course of probably about 30 seconds. No warning, no discussion, nothing. No chat message or voice chat.
Again, I rejoined, and asked for a forum link, which I never got because apparently the server restricts the link to your forum in chat. I began to criticize Tom over what he did. Practically just stated everything in the above paragraph, and said I was going to submit a player report for staff abuse if I was kicked again (sounded a little bit threatening, but oh well). Some other staff, not sure what rank (name was RIP the Turkey) starts a votekick with the reason 'he dared me to'. It passes.
Sidenote: The rule about not arguing with staff is ridiculous. I can see the intentions behind it, but it can be abused in many cases to prevent someone from making a case for themselves, and if a staff member has some more abusive intentions they can bend the rule to censor someone they don't like and punish them. I'd really like it if someone were to rewrite it to be more specific or consider removing it altogether. The staff member really shouldn't always be right by definition of the rules.
Jesus, that's a lot of text. Here's some evidence.
I also have partial video evidence if it's needed, although I don't feel like it is so I won't include it as an attachment on the root post.
Imgur album (The images should be in chronological order but Imgur's devs are severely mentally challenged so they're probably not.)
Console log (Pastebin)
I didn't use the text chat much. Sorry.
For anything else; TeamSpeak, etc.
Your Name: n/a
Their Name: n/a
Description of offense and evidence (screen shots, logs, etc.):
All occurred in-game. No other evidence.
Which Server: Lenny Face Gaming TTT #1|InstaDL|Harpoons|SpecDM|Events
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:42774727
Your Steam Name: red.
Their Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:67653587
Their Steam Name: §0[LFG] §2Christmas§4Tomdv2
Description of offense and evidence (screen shots, logs, etc.):
First the worded vesrion of the situation. I'll attach screenshots after. Sorry for the wall of text lmfao
Before I say anything else, I'd like to emphasize the fact that I was on the server for probably 15 minutes and I already have a staff complaint. Maybe think a little about who is getting promoted here.
I joined the server and was having fun for a bit. Was nice to see spec DM again after playing on a good handful of servers in a row that didn't have it. Players seemed nice. Then apparently I made a mistake by joking about being a traitor. All I said was "It says 'traitor' on the bottom of my screen, what does that mean?" and I instantly got RDMed by Tomdv2, who is currently an operator on the server. I submitted a report, of course, and he claimed that I was T-baiting, which led to a very short argument between me and him that resulted in him kicking me for breaking a rule - 'don't argue with staff'. This isn't the problem, however I feel it should still be included for some background info. I'm well aware I broke the rule and I won't try to say I didn't in any way.
I rejoined after the map rotation finished, and the first thing I said was "I don't understand why that's a rule", leading to a discussion with some of the other players about it. Again, I get kicked by Tom. This is where my problem is. I didn't directly argue with him or any other staff member, just said that I don't understand one of the rules on the server. He kicks me again for the same reason. Not a single word I said was directed towards him, and in fact he could have been helpful there by explaining the rule and why it's in place rather than holding a grudge against me over a small dispute and punishing me immediately. And yes, I seriously mean immediately. This took place over the course of probably about 30 seconds. No warning, no discussion, nothing. No chat message or voice chat.
Again, I rejoined, and asked for a forum link, which I never got because apparently the server restricts the link to your forum in chat. I began to criticize Tom over what he did. Practically just stated everything in the above paragraph, and said I was going to submit a player report for staff abuse if I was kicked again (sounded a little bit threatening, but oh well). Some other staff, not sure what rank (name was RIP the Turkey) starts a votekick with the reason 'he dared me to'. It passes.
Sidenote: The rule about not arguing with staff is ridiculous. I can see the intentions behind it, but it can be abused in many cases to prevent someone from making a case for themselves, and if a staff member has some more abusive intentions they can bend the rule to censor someone they don't like and punish them. I'd really like it if someone were to rewrite it to be more specific or consider removing it altogether. The staff member really shouldn't always be right by definition of the rules.
Jesus, that's a lot of text. Here's some evidence.
I also have partial video evidence if it's needed, although I don't feel like it is so I won't include it as an attachment on the root post.
Imgur album (The images should be in chronological order but Imgur's devs are severely mentally challenged so they're probably not.)
Console log (Pastebin)
I didn't use the text chat much. Sorry.
For anything else; TeamSpeak, etc.
Your Name: n/a
Their Name: n/a
Description of offense and evidence (screen shots, logs, etc.):
All occurred in-game. No other evidence.