7-14-16, 12:14 AM
If that is the case I might have to retract my vote, but won't give a minus vote. Unfortunately I have not been on as of late to see if people keep a good track record.
[Denied] Operator Application for DarkRP
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7-14-16, 12:14 AM
If that is the case I might have to retract my vote, but won't give a minus vote. Unfortunately I have not been on as of late to see if people keep a good track record.
7-14-16, 12:18 AM
Dude i did read the rules and i thought that jihad meant blowing things up. I can't tell the difference because im not a vip so I can't become osama bin laden and see that there is a difference. And im not dumb. I know what admin abuse is. Morgan Freeman just got demoted for it. I've never been a terrorist before on any server and so i thought grenades were ok to use. This one time was my fault and I apologized for it. This does not reflect on the type of player i am...
7-14-16, 12:59 AM
Pierces10
unfortunately im gonna -vouch until i have more evidence. He screwed up as terrorist and threw grenades into a crowd and didn't aim for anyone specific. Then after i explained to him that Jihadding meant jihadding and not grenading he said "I hadn't played terrorist before and was just doing what other terrorists were doing". What's gonna be different as operator? Oh what's that? People keep noclipping into bases to raid them? Sounds like i can do that too! You get the drift. Normally this would be ignorable but on DarkRP we don't need people who need to watch others to learn what to do. We need people who can read the rules and understand what they mean and enforce them the way they should be, not the way they are. Yes the rule was broken. Although you didn't mention the part where he apologized sincerely for what he did. He was mature enough to own up to what he did. He asked you to jail him because he found out he was in the wrong. Someone who owns up to there fault and apologizes is truly mature and fit for a staff position. Someone who would not admit is simply immature and unfit. As for the abusive admin part of your minus vouch you should never let others actions affect your opinion of someone who isn't even involved with them. You can't use the actions of others to formulate your opinion on someone. That's like reading a book by its cover or saying all Muslims are terrorists . I also feel this is a little personal since after he apologized you didn't accept and what you said was "no because some of my base was destroyed". I would like to note I mean no disrespect to you I'm just saying what I believe is right (7-14-16, 12:09 AM)Pierces10 Wrote: unfortunately im gonna -vouch until i have more evidence. He screwed up as terrorist and threw grenades into a crowd and didn't aim for anyone specific. Then after i explained to him that Jihadding meant jihadding and not grenading he said "I hadn't played terrorist before and was just doing what other terrorists were doing". What's gonna be different as operator? Oh what's that? People keep noclipping into bases to raid them? Sounds like i can do that too! You get the drift. Normally this would be ignorable but on DarkRP we don't need people who need to watch others to learn what to do. We need people who can read the rules and understand what they mean and enforce them the way they should be, not the way they are. Honestly I believe this was just worth a in game warning. Instead it was blown way out of proportion.
7-14-16, 02:23 PM
If we have to warn him before he's op, why in the hell would we give him op... did I deny his app? No! I put a minus vouch because I believe he should not be op. I understand he screwed up, I understand he apologized. But I don't think he should be op
7-14-16, 03:07 PM
if you are an amazing darkrp player and you follow the rules and dont break them then it wouldn't matter if i -vouched you. But since you do occasionally break rules and/or misunderstand them then it will affect your application...
7-14-16, 04:59 PM
Ok, so I said I will rethink my vote because it was late at night when I read everything and wanted to review the rules before I deemed the grenade problem a plus or minus vouch. And before anyone reads my long ass reply, keep in mind the weight I hold in the community is about the same as a fava bean. All I can do is give a vouch and maybe clear up some stuff.
Ok, so unfortunately I have seen alot of people good and bad abuse grenades in the past as terrorists, and alot of times I do believe operators and admins do say "I guess grenades are alright as a terrorist, as long as you call terror etc." the thing is that grenades and c4 are stupidly cheap, and *maybe* rightfully so for new players to make money as a terrorist/raiders and to try to have fun. (maybe the problem lies with that you get so many grenades in the shop for a cheap price). I guess people get the assumption that explosion=terror and even if people know that it doesn't they may say it is just because there is no osama on to give out jhads. Another thing is, even know people should use common sense, it doesn't say grenades can't be used for terror (and again people assume explosion=terror, even more so when people see others do it and think its ok.) This can also effect admins/ops because they may not see it in the rules and come up with the same conclusion. -------------------------- Another thing I want to address in this thread is reactions to a -vouch. If you have like 4+ vouches and only 2 -vouches you still have a great chance at getting operator, but as soon as you start trying to defend yourself there is about a 90% chance that you are just digging yourself in a hole. I believe the thread as a whole and a persons track record with other people in the community is also accounted for, and *maybe* a bigger factor, in deciding if your right for a staff position. I can probably still give a +vouch but at this point I don't know how much good it will give. Handling arguments is a big part of being an operator. *Also* as much weight as @Pierces10 has or appears to have, I've seen at least one application get accepted faster just because @Pierces10 reviewed it. @SaintLuther is very fair with selecting people and not even afraid to give the middle finger to his mom when deciding his options with something he is in charge with.
7-14-16, 06:58 PM
Look i apologize. There's nothing more i can say
7-14-16, 11:32 PM
+1 vouch, trc has recently shown a lot of maturity towards me and I now believe he has changed, I think he would make a good edition to the staff team.
7-15-16, 01:18 AM
+Vouch learns from mistakes, knows rules, and is loved in the community <3 (I think..)
7-15-16, 07:48 PM
+Vouch Has really changed. Follows rules and respects others.
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