7-4-16, 08:24 AM
(7-3-16, 08:41 PM)The Doctor Wrote: I honestly think that we are moving too many things to member+. It's a double edged sword. Yes, it would give some people who like the server to join. But at the same time, it would make newcomers and people who don't want to apply for member think that we can't trust anyone (even if it's true). Or just ban the people who are doing it. That would serve as a reminder to everyone else not to fuck with the rules.
That's the thing, sometimes we don't know who's doing it, because everyone has access to E2 and with 5-7 people using E2 chips, it's kinda hard to pinpoint who spawned the crashing or abusive E2. Time and time again people have come on Sandbox and the only thing they do is spawn blinder E2's and torment the server until they're banned. Honestly, they don't even care if they're banned, they get banned on multiple servers. Plus we can only dish out temporary bans (up to 1 week) so they can just wait out the ban, come back, and get banned again. Before I became an admin on Sandbox, I saw a LOT of E2 abuse. I don't see it as much anymore, but it's still gonna happen, which is why I feel it should be limited. Sure it might give them a sense of "what they don't trust us?" but the people who really CARE about being trusted, will prove themselves to be trustworthy of using E2's. Honestly I don't care if they feel that we don't trust them, because they're the ones that caused this to happen in the first place. Maybe if they weren't so abusive with it, they could continue to use it.
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I've heard a few players suggest PAC3 be limited as well due to the abuse of players being tiny and killing, but I say no to that because that's a lot more tolerable, plus easier to find, than people using E2 to crash the server. PAC3 is a wonderful things and I have many non-member friends who play the server because of PAC3, so other than the occasional tiny abuser, PAC3 is great and should be left alone.