[Upheld] UHC could you please do your job better?

[UHC]

"You can't always prove what you're doing with either as well"

I already brought up evidence as to how i was not the one who caused a crash.

I caused zero problems for over 4 hours with smartweld and had no reason to cause problems. It takes a deliberate effort to select that many props, and because I'm not dumb, like playing on LFG, and don't want to loose 4 hours of work I have many incentives to use the tool in a responsible manner.
And for the record, that manner is to never select more then 10 to 15 props with it as to avoid an overflow crash, which needs over 50 or so props.

You also keep going on about your understanding of the logs, but logs are a guess as to the true happenings at best. The logs didn't even contain the reason the server died, only what happened up to that point. If the server logs were truly perfect and could understand crashes then you wouldn't even admins; the server could ban crashers automatically.

Even then, as you said you can guess to a degree, in that the last event is normally the cause -
"the last action being done before a server crash, its a 99% chance of it being the cause"
- however, the last action is not the smartweld, but dupe, which was not me. You keep claiming that that it was a delayed crash, but unless your a computer or electrical engineer then neither of us really know that your claim was truth. The best you have to go off of was the incomplete logs, which don't point to me as the cause of the crash, but instead someone else using dupe.



EDIT: One last thing, since you said the argument lacked proof. Its not like you could have also waited to collect more proof as to the cause of the problem. Normally from what I have seen before, a crash isn't an instant ban, because it might of been an accident or simply from random chance. If the person caused more issues later or another crash, then a ban would be issued. If you had just waited 5 minutes instead of banning me, you would have been able to see me working very carefully and smartwelding as few props as possible.

yes because doing nothing prior to the crash relates to what happened when it did crash? that's like saying I spawned a harmless e2 earlier so that means the one I spawned right before the server crash was also harmless.

fair enough, but when I see spam smart weld, and seeing as how its caused crashes before, it points to you.

I explained the dupe spawned by nap, but you kind of just ignored it.

Collect more proof? that's not how banning server crashers work. the only time you would do that is if there isn't enough proof to point towards one person. In this case, it point towards you and only you. just because someone spawned a dupe as the last action doesn't mean its them. its far more likely nap was spawning a few dupes and you smartwelded during that.

[alexcat2]

If a man can establish that he is skilled in a craft, such as welding or plumbing, you would not expect that person to make a day one training mistake. I bring up my record of not messing up with the tool as proof that i can handle the tool, rather then trying to argue that it was important.

Im bringing up an argument over Nap's dupe because last time i checked neither of us are computer engineers, and can only guess the actual happenings in the server's brain based on what the incomplete logs say. Because you are only speculating and didn't 100% prove your guess, i considered it worth disputing.

Finally, since you have brought up the number of tool uses, I will attempt to dispute that.
Because I'm not an admin I don't have a perfect understanding of the log format. I am going to interpret [L 07/08/2019 - 20:45:48: ] as Month, Day, Year - Hour, Minute, Second. I believe the server is tracking in 24 hour time rather then 12AM/PM because of its use of 20 and lack of an AM or PM note.
https://lfgs.co/u/time%20and%20usage%20count.png

Looking at what the log says, i can only imagine that its making a tool use note for each prop that was selected. I highly doubt that any human being could press any mouse or keyboard button 33 times a second (I did count the number of messages). If it was in minutes, why was no one else logged using tools at the time, as I know the server was far from dead. Also, if each one was an actual tool weld event, why would the server allow it? I know the server either blocks spam or ghosts it to prevent abuse and lag.

Finally, if each marker was a prop being selected, that means I did select more then just a few props (33 to be exact). If the server had not crashed, I would have deselected some, but it crashed so I could not.

Knowing this, I also did tests to see what would actually cause a crash to prove that even 33 was not too many props. On a single player world I spawned in sets of 5 props and smartwelded the whole group. I was capable of welding together over 80 props without a crash.
https://lfgs.co/u/proof%20for%20smartwel...0limit.png
I will also throw you a bone if you want to have smartweld blocked or restricted, in that the lag with larger welds grew exponentially. Smaller welds would cause the computer to hang for but a moment, and only towards the end did it get remotely bad. I was even able to weld 85 or so props, but it took 10 odd seconds, far more then the 2 or so for 80 props. I was not able to get the screenshot because it just lagged and the message for proof would disappear before a frame could be drawn. The 85 prop smartweld also caused insane frame lag for some reason, and it took me down to 2 FPS.

Keep in mind I normally welded 10-15 props, and in the final moments hadn't even selected half of the limit i came up with.

Finally, I will show that I have an especially weak computer to dispute that it only crashed because LFG is a toaster. If LFG is a toaster then I run off of a potato clock. I have an Intel Pentium G3258 CPU that is a 3.2GHz and 2 core system.

https://lfgs.co/u/proof%20im%20running%2...20here.png
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/...0-ghz.html

It is a pentium processor, a format that debuted in 1993 and is from the era before even i3 processors. My specific processor has even been discontinued and is no longer produced because it is not worth the materials it is made out of. In my experience with it, it can run games and stuff that doesn't rely on the CPU, but it can't even decode you tube fast enough to avoid buffering or load more then a few webpages at the same time. If LFG runs on a worst toaster, all I can say is God help you.