Parkour and plycore

[alexcat2]

Why are we arguing over having to enable or disable the entirety of plycore? I know we can use parts because people seem to be able to use extingish to remove flames from stuff which seems to come from plycore.

I never asked for the godmode command or anything, just movement. Keep in mind we now have tanks, planes, helicopters, drones, actual admins, and more.

I also specifically mentioned that Saint was free to do a review of the addon and decide what he thought would be reasonable. My main suggestion was for a part that was no more or less abusable then current LFG inclusions such as other functions or drones, would be very nice to have, and would act as bait for abusers making easy bans.

[SaintLuther]

I never asked for the godmode command or anything, just movement.

I don't see where you specified "movement plycore functions". You mentioned two specific functions which I responded to but that didn't seem good enough for you? Not sure because your response wasn't very specific.

You also said plycore got restricted because of @Nicegirl05 which is not true. nexusCore was restricted, plycore remained uncahnged.

[post calone]

plycore is a bit too much.
especially since regular users can use e2
maybe edit from plycore to nexus? since that was the only thing that was changed.

bo3 movement sounds fun too also

[alexcat2]

@SaintLuther

TLDR - all I really want with the e2 request is some function that allows me to move or apply force to the owner player. All methods to do so are currently disabled.

My main arguments for getting this are still that we have things on the server that are more broken, and it would be good bait to get obvious cheater/abuser proof against (if it was used in unfair, non-consensual PvP).

I would be happy with whatever form ends up being granted, if any. As for nexuscore vs plycore, I don't have any preferences or care which one would be used. My only note is that currently both playerapplyforce commands are either disabled or restricted.

With "movement functions" I was more or less referencing plyapplyforce and plysetang, which are only able to move players.

Also, with the nicegirl thing, at first I didn't even realize nexuscore was a thing that existed, and thought that we only had that function from plycore. Thank you for the correction.

[Demonik1]

I never asked for the godmode command or anything, just movement

There will never be a time where you should be able to edit either of these things, that's why other stuff such as cocaine are restricted which insanely boosts your speed.

There is already a lot of E2 abuse on Sandbox that happens from all across the ranks from user to donators.  This would only make things worse.

[SaintLuther]

With "movement functions" I was more or less referencing plyapplyforce and plysetang, which are only able to move players.

plysetang changes where you're looking... which could be used for aimbot

plyapplyforce can be used to fly around. This could be used to shoot people while flying or allow you to fly to an OP sniper position. Prop surfing is against the rules and build mode prevents weapons.

I would be willing to enable both of these functions given that the player using them has buildmode enabled.

[zackadiax247]

plysetang changes where you're looking... which could be used for aimbot

plyapplyforce can be used to fly around. This could be used to shoot people while flying or allow you to fly to an OP sniper position. Prop surfing is against the rules and build mode prevents weapons.

I would be willing to enable both of these functions given that the player using them has buildmode enabled.

I counter that with this absolutely amazing argument: we have admins on at almost all times and members can ban/kick. any abuse that happens will be shut down pretty quickly, E2 abuse is one of those things that even our worst (in the context of abuse) members cannot tolerate. Your unwillingness to let this pass shows how little you trust your staff to deal with rule breakers.

[UHC]

I counter that with this absolutely amazing argument: we have admins on at almost all times and members can ban/kick. any abuse that happens will be shut down pretty quickly, E2 abuse is one of those things that even our worst (in the context of abuse) members cannot tolerate. Your unwillingness to let this pass shows how little you trust your staff to deal with rule breakers.

and if theres no staff on, or the members cant find out whos doing it?

[SaintLuther]

or the members cant find out whos doing it

or if a member is doing it

[westernspy]

or if a member is doing it

@"『MoC』Xenon"