[Upheld] UHC could you please do your job better?

[alexcat2]

Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:73525586
Your In-Game Name: Alexcat2
Server you were banned from: Sandbox
When were you banned?: 7/8/2019 ; 10 PM for 1 week
Who you were banned by?: UHC
Why were you banned?: Because the server died and I was using smartweld at the time, even though it very likely wasnt me

https://lfgs.co/u/bruh%20learn%20to%20read.png

Notice how if you read the logs posted i was not the last recorded event, but instead it was a dupe placed. I have seen people banned for less, or specifically having spawned in an unknown dupe right as the server died. At any rate, notice how the last recorded event was not me using smartweld, showing evidence that it wasn't me. 

When it came to me smartwelding, i had been doing it for over 4 hours working on a project of mine, a space station. Smart weld can crash the server if too many props are selected, at least over 50 or so. I never went over 20, and normally did 10-15. Even if you wont take my word on this, the three plus hours of not messing up in the most deliberate of ways with the tool should act as proof that i'm not stupid with it.

Also, while crashing the server is bannable, using smartweld currently isn't. If the tool is really that bad, it should just be removed like the fireworks addon was, instead of just banning everyone who uses the tool. I know its possible because other tool on the server are restricted, such as the rope tool for users and many of the more dangerous wiremod tools such as teleporters and turrets.

Finally, its not like UHC is doing the best of jobs either. Normally i wouldn't care, but in this case that is preventing me from playing on the server. I would think that a first time accident should be met with a warning rather then an out and out 1 week ban. Also, if UHC truly believes that the smartweld tool is that bad why hasn't he made suggestion posts on the forums? 

Lastly, as more proof, UHC never even finished properly dealing with my last ban (if your gonna argue over it do it on that one). 
https://lennyfacegaming.org/showthread.php?tid=7571
The ban ended over a week ago, and yet it was never even really concluded or locked. I was ready to keep arguing my case, but UHC never responded at the end of it.
He knows just how much i use the server because he sees me on, and he knows that i'm not some malicious server killer person. If my goal was to kill the server, why would I waste over 4 hours building up to it with making a giant space station? 


EDIT: I also forgot how UHC couldn't even figure out who crashed it in the first place, Saint had to post logs and UHC banned me off of instinct because i had the most messages, rather then the important final message.
https://lfgs.co/u/proof%20saint%20posted%20logs.png
If you look at the URL in the second shot you will notice that it is the same as the link in the edited shot i had.

[CaptainPuggles]

UHC False banned alexcat, i was on the the server, alex was just working on a project and not attempting to crash the server in anyway shape or form. Also, UHC needs to stop false banning people. Once I was banned by uhc because he suspected i crashed the server even though, I wasn't even at my computer. Unban alex, he did nothing wrong.

[post calone]

doubt alex is the person to crash any server, if he wanted to crash the server, he wouldn't of made the station

smartweld crashes are easily fixable
just remove the tool

[TUBESOCK]

Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:73525586
Your In-Game Name: Alexcat2
Server you were banned from: Sandbox
When were you banned?: 7/8/2019 ; 10 PM for 1 week
Who you were banned by?: UHC
Why were you banned?: Because the server died and I was using smartweld at the time, even though it very likely wasnt me

https://lfgs.co/u/bruh%20learn%20to%20read.png

Notice how if you read the logs posted i was not the last recorded event, but instead it was a dupe placed. I have seen people banned for less, or specifically having spawned in an unknown dupe right as the server died. At any rate, notice how the last recorded event was not me using smartweld, showing evidence that it wasn't me. 

When it came to me smartwelding, i had been doing it for over 4 hours working on a project of mine, a space station. Smart weld can crash the server if too many props are selected, at least over 50 or so. I never went over 20, and normally did 10-15. Even if you wont take my word on this, the three plus hours of not messing up in the most deliberate of ways with the tool should act as proof that i'm not stupid with it.

Also, while crashing the server is bannable, using smartweld currently isn't. If the tool is really that bad, it should just be removed like the fireworks addon was, instead of just banning everyone who uses the tool. I know its possible because other tool on the server are restricted, such as the rope tool for users and many of the more dangerous wiremod tools such as teleporters and turrets.

Finally, its not like UHC is doing the best of jobs either. Normally i wouldn't care, but in this case that is preventing me from playing on the server. I would think that a first time accident should be met with a warning rather then an out and out 1 week ban. Also, if UHC truly believes that the smartweld tool is that bad why hasn't he made suggestion posts on the forums? 

Lastly, as more proof, UHC never even finished properly dealing with my last ban (if your gonna argue over it do it on that one). 
https://lennyfacegaming.org/showthread.php?tid=7571
The ban ended over a week ago, and yet it was never even really concluded or locked. I was ready to keep arguing my case, but UHC never responded at the end of it.
He knows just how much i use the server because he sees me on, and he knows that i'm not some malicious server killer person. If my goal was to kill the server, why would I waste over 4 hours building up to it with making a giant space station? 


EDIT: I also forgot how UHC couldn't even figure out who crashed it in the first place, Saint had to post logs and UHC banned me off of instinct because i had the most messages, rather then the important final message.
https://lfgs.co/u/proof%20saint%20posted%20logs.png
If you look at the URL in the second shot you will notice that it is the same as the link in the edited shot i had.

[UHC]

The "important" thing you point at is 1 second from when your simultaneous smart welds occurred. It seems more likely that nap was spawning a dupe right when you did smart welds rather than him actually being the cause

[alexcat2]

The "important" thing you point at is 1 second from when your simultaneous smart welds occurred. It seems more likely that nap was spawning a dupe right when you did smart welds rather than him actually being the cause

I didn't even activate the tool at the time of the reply, i was selecting things with it. And even then, do you have proof i selected too many props? I have been building complex things for a long time and respect the power of tools, as shown how i never caused a crash for over 4 hours with the "evil" smartweld tool. And last time I checked, smartweld itself was never against the rules.

EDIT: Also, a second is a massive amount of time to a computer. If i truly overloaded the server with smartweld, it would not even have the server capacity to register another action such as dupe being used.

[Vegio]

He was making a base. None of it was intentional and if he was making a huge base (what i heard was for hours) then why then would it crash. If he was meaning for it to crash what's with the set up of an elaborate base.

[TUBESOCK]

Yo I axcedently posted the same thing on my profile, my bad XD

[UHC]

I didn't even activate the tool at the time of the reply, i was selecting things with it. And even then, do you have proof i selected too many props? I have been building complex things for a long time and respect the power of tools, as shown how i never caused a crash for over 4 hours with the "evil" smartweld tool. And last time I checked, smartweld itself was never against the rules.

EDIT: Also, a second is a massive amount of time to a computer. If i truly overloaded the server with smartweld, it would not even have the server capacity to register another action such as dupe being used.

Smartweld isn't against the rules but neither is e2 and both can crash the server. You can't always prove what you're doing with either as well, but when its the last action being done before a server crash, its a 99% chance of it being the cause. Its possible nap was using dupe right as you smartwelded. it can very well have been done during the overflow since it wasn't an instantaneous crash, it was a very quick delayed crash.

[alexcat2]

"You can't always prove what you're doing with either as well"

I already brought up evidence as to how i was not the one who caused a crash.

I caused zero problems for over 4 hours with smartweld and had no reason to cause problems. It takes a deliberate effort to select that many props, and because I'm not dumb, like playing on LFG, and don't want to loose 4 hours of work I have many incentives to use the tool in a responsible manner.
And for the record, that manner is to never select more then 10 to 15 props with it as to avoid an overflow crash, which needs over 50 or so props.

You also keep going on about your understanding of the logs, but logs are a guess as to the true happenings at best. The logs didn't even contain the reason the server died, only what happened up to that point. If the server logs were truly perfect and could understand crashes then you wouldn't even admins; the server could ban crashers automatically.

Even then, as you said you can guess to a degree, in that the last event is normally the cause -
"the last action being done before a server crash, its a 99% chance of it being the cause"
- however, the last action is not the smartweld, but dupe, which was not me. You keep claiming that that it was a delayed crash, but unless your a computer or electrical engineer then neither of us really know that your claim was truth. The best you have to go off of was the incomplete logs, which don't point to me as the cause of the crash, but instead someone else using dupe.



EDIT: One last thing, since you said the argument lacked proof. Its not like you could have also waited to collect more proof as to the cause of the problem. Normally from what I have seen before, a crash isn't an instant ban, because it might of been an accident or simply from random chance. If the person caused more issues later or another crash, then a ban would be issued. If you had just waited 5 minutes instead of banning me, you would have been able to see me working very carefully and smartwelding as few props as possible.