something that can restore player count but has a 1/100 chance to be added

[westernspy]

i maybe don't have hope for this since denial of saint
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...=outfitter
or simply bring back pac4
nobody, nobody except for maybe half of LFG will agree to this, but either re-add pac4 experimental or add outfitter (gayshitter) and completely replace pointshop playermodels (sorry to those who previously payed for uber models)
pointshop playermodels are pretty much old at this point, it's pretty much used for those servers that are vanilla and uses no addons, which isn't us, and i pretty much would like to replace it with something newer, more modern to gmod
if you guys don't want everyone (like the whole server) in anime playermodels, i guess you can vote for pac4, since not everyone can do the thing with replacing their playermodel with something weeby
also fuck you vladimir lenin, you're a fucking dictator, don't deny this you little shit
give us at least the ability to vote yes or no for this, i don't want you (saint) to deny this right away as soon as i post this
also yeah, i won't worry you too much, i will at least have you set a certain MB size limit, so you don't have to worry with playermodels with over 1 gigabyte worth of shit in it (maybe doesn't exist but yeah this is how texans exaggerate)
i'm fine with people disagreeing with this, i'm doing this mainly to revive LFG, not for personal benefit of being a gay cross-dressing jojo character with tits, and the majority of people here on LFG pretty much likes to have a diverse player and not have to FUCKING PAY 20 DOLLARS JUST TO GET A 10 MB PLAYERMODEL, people mainly donate for their perks, not for personal playermodels
explanation for this is maybe close to nothing, since i'm often making suggestions with little-to-no explanation
how do i convince saint? as a 13 year old smart-dumb-ish bastard i can't really do anything but repeat the excuse of "let the community decide, not a communist dictator named vladimir lenin"
also i bet you guys that will vote no will use ad hominems to try and drive us off track and then we start using ad hominems and start a war in a damn server suggestion, i'd prefer a discussion than a warzone of one half and another half of LFG's population in a damn thread war, you guys also might come up with the excuse of the new metro playermodels that were recently added, please don't use recent additions of playermodels as excuses, even though i've made up more excuses here than you guys did
i wish luck to this community, even if this suggestion passes or doesn't, or simply denied straight out of being posted

[SaintLuther]

PAC4 is already allowed

[westernspy]

PAC4 is already allowed

i maybe forgot to mention, outside of buildmode?
still waiting for another forums war... i guess on this exact thread

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i could've been more specific

i can maybe list some rules with hitboxes and shit
of course, if there's any missing (or invisible) limbs, such as playermodels that have no legs, shouldn't be allowed
i mainly chose between pac4 and outfitter, also i can simply increase the limit, you can say that pac4 is allowed, but you didn't say how much it allows, it only allows 10 MiBs, which isn't enough for everyone, about 10-30 MB is what most people will accept, feel free to argue with no context

[Demonik1]

If we add Outfitter we should get rid of the Pointshop Player Models for Sandbox. Not sure if that would save any space or not cause you would be getting rid of all the Player Models except the Uber ones.

[SaintLuther]

i maybe forgot to mention, outside of buildmode?

So unless I missed it (your thread was very hard to read) you didn't respond to the unfair combat implications that come with custom playermodels which I outlined when restricting them.

[westernspy]

i maybe forgot to mention, outside of buildmode?

So unless I missed it (your thread was very hard to read) you didn't respond to the unfair combat implications that come with custom playermodels which I outlined when restricting them.

i just did?

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If we add Outfitter we should get rid of the Pointshop Player Models for Sandbox. Not sure if that would save any space or not cause you would be getting rid of all the Player Models except the Uber ones.

it's adding, not really much of removing other than replacing, since of course there's mb in the playermodels in lfg, but when it comes to adding outfitter or re-adding pac4, then of course it's an addition since not the whole server will be using custom models, instead of 1/4 of the server using different playermodels from the pointshop

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i just did?

also i wasn't really being very specific on my explanation of hitboxes

[SaintLuther]

i just did?

Yeah you edited your post after I replied to it. Sorry I couldn't see your future replies while writing mine?

So we are going to require admins to test the hitboxes of every custom playermodel then?

[westernspy]

i just did?

Yeah you edited your post after I replied to it. Sorry I couldn't see your future replies while writing mine?

So we are going to require admins to test the hitboxes of every custom playermodel then?

when it comes to rapid change of playermodels, admins have to test their hitboxes through PVP, or simply ask the user that's using the playermodel "hey can i test the hitboxes of that playermodel"

[SaintLuther]

How about this. Since you're so convinced (and other people are too) that the drop is playercount was caused by minor PAC4 restrictions, I remove those restrictions and we see if the player count magically goes back to normal. If it does, then we tweak restrictions, if it doesn't, then obviously that wasn't the problem.

[westernspy]

How about this. Since you're so convinced (and other people are too) that the drop is playercount was caused by minor PAC4 restrictions, I remove those restrictions and we see if the player count magically goes back to normal. If it does, then we tweak restrictions, if it doesn't, then obviously that wasn't the problem.

Sure, if LFG remains dead, blame it on the sbox genre being killed off from migration to other games
although I can maybe go a little more modern and add outfitter if you're fine with it