[Denied] Demoniks serious TTT operator app

[Demonik1]

Sorry dude not after today's incident, you mass rdmed with the sword on the minecraft map and, then after the first voteban failed I told you how that was against the rules. Then you go and rdm the verry next round.

That's fake news I stopped after you did the first vote and continued to do them until you got what you wanted

[TrueCrimson]

From what I was told by people you did not get any consent and just mass RDMed people. I was not there but I asked someone who was there who was not Manlord and was told you just did it and did in fact say "killing people with diamond sword is not RDM." It seems like you still mass RDMed. I was told by 2 people you killed 5/8 people with the diamond sword or something like that.

[Demonik1]

From what I was told by people you did not get any consent and just mass RDMed people. I was not there but I asked someone who was there who was not Manlord and was told you just did it and did in fact say "killing people with diamond sword is not RDM." It seems like you still mass RDMed. I was told by 2 people you killed 5/8 people with the diamond sword or something like that.

That was the whole reason why we swapped to that map was to use the diamond sword and I said it was not RDM because someone who knew the rules really well told me it was not RDM as the world killed them

[Nuggets]

That was the whole reason why we swapped to that map was to use the diamond sword and I said it was not RDM because someone who knew the rules really well told me it was not RDM as the world killed them

It's prop kill though

You know using a prop to kill

Prop to kill 
Prop kill

[TrueCrimson]

That was the whole reason why we swapped to that map was to use the diamond sword and I said it was not RDM because someone who knew the rules really well told me it was not RDM as the world killed them

Clearly they did not know the rules really well since it is prop kill no matter how they died. Does not matter if the world killed them. Any staff member who sees it will absolutely punish you. You clearly do not under the rules if that is not obvious to you. I am sorry but this is not looking good and you admitting that you did now just RDM.

[Dark Swordsman]

I built the sword and several times got killed for trying to hide it. Some guests also believe even seeing someone without the sword enchanted is a KOS;-; Ehh. Their karma and slays were made. But Demonik did MASS prop kill, but I can also say people who've mass RDMed with that sword before were never punished. Fault on the staff including myself bc it woulda been "False slays/" I don't wanna point fingers but an example is Fresh builds it and rampages ALL. THE. TIME. and when I report him or whatever he claims it false because it's an "Implemented part of map., making it legal." And is never slain by admins anyway. SO I believe if we ain't punishing anybody so far for that damn sword, then Demonik shouldn't be either.

+Vouch still I guess. Leaning to a neutral if problems still keep incurring that actually aren't false.

[Demonik1]

Clearly they did not know the rules really well since it is prop kill no matter how they died. Does not matter if the world killed them. Any staff member who sees it will absolutely punish you. You clearly do not under the rules if that is not obvious to you. I am sorry but this is not looking good and you admitting that you did now just RDM.

Then why does no one ever get punished for it? Obviously I figured it was ok cause never have I ever seen someone get into any kind of trouble using the diamond sword, even when it's a full server with lots of staff on

[Zellogi]

That was the whole reason why we swapped to that map was to use the diamond sword and I said it was not RDM because someone who knew the rules really well told me it was not RDM as the world killed them

Then you clearly don't know the rules. RDM is defined as killing a player for no reason, using any means. You were holding a Magneto Stick, using it to hold a prop that killed on contact, and mass RDMed basically the whole server. Doesn't matter if it says the world killed them. Using your logic, it's not RDM to kill your T buddies on dev ruins using the T trap, as its considered the world as well.

Then why does no one ever get punished for it? Obviously I figured it was ok cause never have I ever seen someone get into any kind of trouble using the diamond sword, even when it's a full server with lots of staff on

Probably because the staff don't do their job half the time? Either that or they're too autistic to find out who's holding the diamond sword.

I was gonna stay out of this, but since you clearly think using the diamond sword to kill everyone is not RDM, -1 vouch because you don't know what RDM is apparently.

[Phil]

As of recent events I am now at a neutral vouch

[TrueCrimson]

I built the sword and several times got killed for trying to hide it. Some guests also believe even seeing someone without the sword enchanted is a KOS;-; Ehh. Their karma and slays were made. But Demonik did MASS prop kill, but I can also say people who've mass RDMed with that sword before were never punished. Fault on the staff including myself bc it woulda been "False slays/" I don't wanna point fingers but an example is Fresh builds it and rampages ALL. THE. TIME. and when I report him or whatever he claims it false because it's an "Implemented part of map., making it legal." And is never slain by admins anyway. SO I believe if we ain't punishing anybody so far for that damn sword, then Demonik shouldn't be either.

+Vouch still I guess. Leaning to a neutral if problems still keep incurring that actually aren't false.

If Fresh thinks that then tell some one. Last person I saw using the diamond sword was Terry and he was punished for any kills he obtained. You clearly never brought up to any other staff since even Hunter just said it is RDM. It does not matter if it is on the map or not. Using the ax on high rise also prop killing if you charge it.

Also Demonik just because someone does it does not mean it its not against the rules. We had this issue. We cannot see the logs of the diamond sword but you are still responsible for your actions. You also clearly hid these things from me when you asked me to help you making me lose some form of trust in you.