My response to last month's events.

[Zellogi]

I'm sure many of you have been anticipating this day. I know some of you have, because even though I was banned for a month, I could still read the chatbox (incognito mode lmao), so I could still keep track of some of the shit talking that's been going on. Honestly, I don't care what your guys' opinion of me is at this point, and this thread probably isn't going to change anything, but I felt that this deserved at least some form of closure. I can't directly read what was stated on the thread made by Saint because he decided to post it in Member Private, and of course, since I was banned, and also demoted to Forum User, I don't have access to it so that's probably where most of the shit talking has taken place. Anyways.


I'm posting it here for the above reason, I can't actually reply to the thread itself (if it's even still open).

1. I did not make the alts. I don't care what evidence he has, it's all coincidental, and evidence of the sort wouldn't pass in a court of law, so it can't pass here. I have no reason to make the alts, if I wanted to actually bash people, I would do it myself on my own account, not on an alt. I've spent 2+ years enforcing and abiding by the rules, why the fuck would I break them now?
2. I only did what I did on Sandbox, because Saint wanted to vilify me, so I showed him what villains do. If he didn't decide to oust me, that would never have happened. It was stupid, but at the time, and even now, I didn't care. It was my small form of backlash for his stupid decision.
3. Either way, he was right about one thing. I was not going to apologize for something I did not do. That's not how it works. I'm not about to take Saint's dick up my ass and own up to something I didn't do. I don't care if it resulted in me losing my Consultant rank, it's not about the rank, it's the corruption that goes on in this community by Saint himself, stating that I should confess to something I didn't do and continue being fucked in the ass by him, or be exiled from the very community I've helped him grow so much over the years.

The only evidence I have in my defense probably won't make a difference, but on March 27th, I got an email from Credit Karma, and they have identity theft notifications, and they will email you if they detect your information has been leaked or breached. Well, I received that email, and if you don't believe me, here you go:





I blacked out my name for obvious reasons, but if Saint wants, I can PM him an uncensored copy of the picture to verify that it is me. 

I don't expect anything to happen from this thread, and some of you still probably won't believe that I didn't do it, and honestly I don't care. I'm just posting my side of the story since I was silenced before I had a chance to, and now I can.

tl;dr
Don't be lazy, read the thread. 

-Zell

[UHC]

if someone had access to your credit karma account, they wouldn't attempt to... steal your credit information but instead try to get you banned on the LFG forums? if it wasn't done by demonik, I don't believe it helps your case.

[SaintLuther]

So the only evidence you give is an email (that could've been sent to anyone) about credit monitoring... I don't see how that helps prove your innocence at all.

As for my evidence, I can send you a PM of my original post so that you can see it for yourself. I have matching IPs, emails, and other information which links you to your alts. I don't know where you go claiming that IPs aren't something that wouldn't be used in a "court of law", but they are.

[Zellogi]

if someone had access to your credit karma account, they wouldn't attempt to... steal your credit information but instead try to get you banned on the LFG forums? if it wasn't done by demonik, I don't believe it helps your case.

Are you dumb? They don't access my CK account, CK checks to see if my personal information (addresses, phone numbers, email, usernames/passwords on the internet, etc) was released in security breaches (idk how often) but they email me when they detect that my personal information is leaked. Obviously this isn't as simple as someone accessing my credit karma account, because that's 99% harmless, all they can see is my shitty credit score.

[UHC]

Are you dumb? They don't access my CK account, CK checks to see if my personal information (addresses, phone numbers, email, usernames/passwords on the internet, etc) was released in security breaches (idk how often) but they email me when they detect that my personal information is leaked. Obviously this isn't as simple as someone accessing my credit karma account, because that's 99% harmless, all they can see is my shitty credit score.

ok, but that still begs the question of why they would focus on your lfg account and not something more valuable, unless this account is the most valuable thing you have. but again, unless demonik was actually behind this, I don't see why they would target your lfg account.

[SaintLuther]

Even if someone did hack @Zellogi, that still would not explain the correlating IP addresses, among other things. The hacker would have to be on the same internet connection (which would require being in the same building or very close if there's wifi) as him. Like @UHC said, why would someone go to these extreme measures to get you demoted from LFG?

[M-E-T-A]

does any lfg member work with you or live close to you?

[Zellogi]

ok, but that still begs the question of why they would focus on your lfg account and not something more valuable, unless this account is the most valuable thing you have. but again, unless demonik was actually behind this, I don't see why they would target your lfg account.

Even if someone did hack @Zellogi, that still would not explain the correlating IP addresses, among other things. The hacker would have to be on the same internet connection (which would require being in the same building or very close if there's wifi) as him. Like @UHC said, why would someone go to these extreme measures to get you demoted from LFG?

Saint, you know I'm on public wifi, you know my living conditions.
As to why someone would do it, who knows, maybe I was a dick to someone a long time ago and they saw me now and decided to sabotage me as late payback. I do talk about LFG outside of the internet. I did make a lot of enemies in high school (turns out nerds aren't popular at my high school, they're called know-it-alls) and there very well could be one of them living near me without me even knowing.

does any lfg member work with you or live close to you?

Read above.

[SaintLuther]

Ok, so let's say you pissed off someone in high school... 6 years ago.

They decide to devote their life to destroying you because of how mad you made them.

They learn about computers and hacking skills in order to digitally ruin you.

Somehow over the next few years they gain access to one of your emails accounts with their new hacking abilities, but decide to lay in wait for the right moment to use it against you.

They keep close tabs on your online activity and physical location and make sure they always live within close proximity.

After some years later they see you've been promoted in LFG to Consultant. Is this the time to strike? No. They decide to wait another year.

At this point they start scoping out the community more intensely, seeing as this must be important to you. They learn who the Members are and what the servers are like.

After another year they decide to strike. They create an account on LFG using the email they hacked all those years ago. (@ZellogiIsNigger) They curse you out in the chatbox releasing all that built up anger against you they're acquired.

And then you get banned, their mission is a success, the satisfaction is immense. But to their dismay, it's only for a week?!? And you get to keep Consultant?!? It can't be.

They decide the next time they strike they must be more subtle and devious. They know I'll need more evidence next time I ban you because you were able to convince most people it was Demonik.

After a few months later they create an another account. (@White Mexican) Cause some drama in the chatbox on some posts, but nothing to get themselves banned immediately. They spoof your phone's model in hopes I will pick up on that.

They decide it's time to step up their game, now they're stalking you and connecting to the same WiFi connections as you in order to frame you even better, but alas, this is still not enough.

One night while you're staying at your (wherever, a hotel?) they connect to the same wifi as you and create a another account (@:boxhide:). This must be enough to get you banned! But not quite yet, so they continue the charade.

Eventually they planted enough evidence for you to be banned. They relish in their success as they see you've been banned for a week with the possibility of permanent demotion and an extended ban! It was all worth it! They finally got back at you for pissing them off in high school!

So you're saying all I need to do is believe that story and that you're innocent? Why didn't you say so earlier?

[DarudeDankstorm]

I know that I dodn't know you too well, and whether you did or didn't do certain things, everybody makes mistakes from time to time. As long as this all can get cleared up, I and plenty other absolutely wouldn't dislike you for it. Some will, some won't. Something like this isn't worth leaving for.